Jarrow War Rolls.
#1
Found this interesting web page with the list of people from jarrow from both World Wars.

http://www.jarrow-war-roll.webs.com/

Here's another one about Palmers

http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Durham/JarrowPalmers.html

Many thanks to Martin Edwards who researched and transcribed the information.
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#2
Hi Jarraman, cheers for posting those two links, :tea:Cait
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#3
have a look at Jarrow bombing 1940 1941 thread for list of those who were killed on the raids on Sheldon Street and Princess Street.
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#4
its sad so many people lost their lives and we still don't learn
or do we ?
i like a bit of conspiracy theories so all wars are all reliant in a way (but still sad)
what i don't like is he fact we would erect such a beautiful memorial way back in the 20's (i presume) and what do we get today
a slab of concrete !
i know it has taken some work to create the slab of concrete but not like the one in the pic
you could touch the Jarrow memorial and feel the work that had gone into it and the lives lost, it means something, it has life.
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#5
Book in Jarrow Library

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#6
that guy that researched the book ,i think i know himWink
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#7
Think I do as well. Keeping me eye on him. Rolleyes
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#8
Is this man in the book I wonder.I think he might be.


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#9
He is not in the book Ted
He is not commemorated anywhere in Jarrow

He is not on the Plaque in the Town Hall

But his name is added here:

http://www.jarrow-war-roll.webs.com/

This is the information on him:
Archibald Rowan Lishman 1595712 Sergeant (Air Gunner)
640 Squadron Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Age 23 who died on 18th May 1945
Son of Thomas B. and Elizabeth Ann Lishman of Keighley
Husband of Mrs C Lishman 210 Hope Street Jarrow
Grave/Memorial Reference: Hamburg Cemetery. 6A. B. 3

Thomas B. Lishman married Elizabeth A. Rowan 21.05.1921 (registered South Shields)
Archibald Rowan Lishman born 1921 in Jarrow
Archibald Rowan Lishman married Catherine McKeown in Owestry Shropshire 1943
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#10
Imagine early 1920s Jarrow.
Not long after losing your husband, father, son, brother to WW1.
Looking up at the newly erected Palmer Cenotaph and looking for their names only to find not one of them added?
Would you have thought ‘Why is my family missing?’
Especially like some widows who lost husbands and brothers and not one was recorded on that Cenotaph?
And for most of them, the only information they had received from the War Office was ‘killed in action’ - ‘missing presumed dead’ - ‘of no known grave’ - ‘commemorated Belgium/France’
Which might as well of been the dark side of the moon in them days for the cost of getting there.
Those wretched poor souls never mourned their husband, father, son, brothers passing.................
Imagine if the Palmer Cenotaph had of included all those who died from Jarrow in WW1
(It holds 185 names 145 on 3 faces, rest on additional brass plaque)
And there were at least 756 Servicemen who died in WW1 from Jarrow
It would have, had to have been 5 times the size of the present Cenotaph
And imagine if it held all the names of those killed in WW1 and WW2 from Jarrow.
(There were 1186 Servicemen/women and Civilians (known) from Jarrow, that died in WW1 and WW2)
It would have, had to have been 7 times the size of the present Cenotaph
For nearly a Century some have not been remembered when we were told
‘We Will Remember Them’

Only 18% of our Servicemen from Jarrow, who died in both World Wars, are commemorated on a Cenotaph in Jarrow
(note: The Palmer Cenotaph only holds the names of 185 who died in WW1)
(note: Monkton Memorial only holds the names of 20 who died in WW1)

Jarrow St. Paul’s Church has a Memorial Plaque with 422 names for WW1
Jarrow Palmer Cenotaph has 185 names for WW1
Jarrow St. Mark’s Church had a Memorial Plaque with 34 names for WW1
Jarrow Cemetery has 47 War Graves for WW1
Jarrow St. Peter’s Church had a Memorial Plaque with 6 names for WW1
Jarrow Baptist Church has Scroll with 3 names for WW1
Jarrow Monkton Memorial has 20 names for WW1
Jarrow Town Hall has a Commemorative book
Jarrow Library has Commemorative books for for WW1
Jarrow WW1 servicemen/women not Commemorated anywhere in the Town is 75
Jarrow WW1 civilians not Commemorated anywhere in the Town is 14
Jarrow servicemen/women total 756 for WW1
Jarrow civilians total 17 for WW1
Jarrow memorials/graves also include 56 not from Jarrow for WW2
Jarrow War dead for WW1 is 773
Jarrow Town Hall has a Memorial Plaque with 238 names for WW2
Jarrow Cemetery has 54 War Graves for WW2
Jarrow St. Mark’s Church had a Memorial Plaque with 15 names for WW2
Jarrow Cemetery has 37 Civilian Graves for WW2
Jarrow Town Hall has a Commemorative books
Jarrow Library has Commemorative books for WW2
Jarrow WW2 servicemen not Commemorated anywhere in the Town is 73
Jarrow Servicemen total 298 for WW2
Jarrow civilians total 40 for WW2
Jarrow memorials/graves also include 14 not from Jarrow for WW2
Jarrow War dead for WW2 is 338
Jarrow servicemen/women, who are known to have died in both wars is 1071
(Jarrow servicemen/women not commemorated anywhere in the Town for both wars is 148)
Jarrow Civilians, who died in both wars is 57
(Jarrow civilians not commemorated anywhere in the Town for both wars is 14)
Jarrow Servicemen/women and Civilians who are not commemorated anywhere in the Town for both wars is 162
Jarrow memorials/graves also include 70 not from Jarrow for both wars
Jarrow total for both wars is 1128

This was reported in the Gazette in 2002

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And what became of the Grand Scheme of things? ...
The cheapest option:
A Memorial Book in Jarrow Town Hall under lock and key in a glass topped case
On the other side of the main coded lock security door in the Town Hall
Not what I would call a Public Memorial?

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I have only seen the first page opened, viewed through the glass (10 names from WW2? - Should it not of started with the WW1 names first? - 10 names from 1114 for both Wars)
Has anyone seen any other pages?
Do the other pages hold names?
Or are the other pages, just blank? .....................................................
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