Belsfield ( Boys )
#31
Pat Wrote:Is anyone old enough to remember when Belsfield was an all girls school, with Miss Hetherington as Head Mistress!!! I didn't go there, but we used to go to a class in The Hall, which was the back of the church at that time. (1949-ish) We shared a playground and dining hall with Belsfield girls. Our teacher was Miss Finnigan (Nellie). Now there was a teacher...........!!!!

A friend of mine called went to Belsfield school when it was a girl's school. I think it changed to a boy's school in 1960.
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#32
mad_geordie Wrote:Anyone go here.....had real fires blazing in some of the classrooms that were in the main house.

Some of the teachers:

Mr Doran head
Mrs Doran
Wanless
McDonald
Harry Brennan
Mick Fay
Tommy Bushell
Miss O'Hara
Mr Sutherland
Mr Coyne
Mc Nally bothers Philip and Raymond

School choir in St Matthews, when the whole mass would be sung.

Eventually had the annex across the road too where the mixed classes ended up moving to.
remember the fires, harry brennan,sutherland,pe teatcher mcnally,mad tommy bushell,mister hide, miss donathy,donkey obrien,budgie mckenna, john ford ,mr fallon, cunningham,paddy core.No mixed classes in my time.
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#33
I was there from September 1962 to April 1966
Lets think now

1a Bede James Hyde (BJH) September 1962 to July 1963 (Maths, English, Science)
Learnt more in his year than the rest put together - pity he went to Canada - his father Bede James Hyde senior was my foreman (Marine Plumber) at the Naval Yard Walker from 1966 to 1971

2a Henry Joseph Brennan (HJB) September 1963 to July 1964 (History)
Wasted year - History from the Romans up to the American War of Independence - No 20th century history or Local history

3a John O'Brien (JOB) September 1964 to July 1965 (Art)
Wasted year - this man was a real philanthropist (nice man and the salt of the earth) but art was not in demand from a Secondary School - building ships and mining coal was

4a Hugh Cunningham (HC) September 1965 to April 1966
Wasted 8 months - this man should of been a primary teacher - best he could do was educate to Northern County standard when all other Secondary Schools in the country were equipped for GCEs - Bede Hyde should of taught 4a - I left this class 4 months early to get a job and get an education at Technical College .........

Name one old boy that excelled at anything at this school?
Not counting H.M.P.

We wuz robbed of a decent education at that school ....................
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#34
I can name a few old boys from the 60's, Belsfield, who went on to become quite wealthy professional guys - but I won't, for obvious reasons. They are all my age and will have left in 1962 but none still live in Jarrow. Was the GCE not available in that school, did you feel "pushed" into the shipyards or was it just lack of ambition? What makes you think there are no success stories?
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#35
Chic Wrote:I can name a few old boys from the 60's, Belsfield, who went on to become quite wealthy professional guys - but I won't, for obvious reasons. They are all my age and will have left in 1962 but none still live in Jarrow. Was the GCE not available in that school, did you feel "pushed" into the shipyards or was it just lack of ambition? What makes you think there are no success stories?

First of all are you male or female?

Did you go to Belsfield?

If you did you should know if you could take GCEs or not when you were there?

Belsfield became a boys school about 1960 .........

It's easy to say you can name a few professional guys from Belsfield
But sorry I need some proof

GCEs came in 1951
Northern Counties was all you could take, from when it turned into a boys school about 1960, till at least it was turned into a mixed school about 1975
'Pushed'
There was no other choice but the shipyards, pits, armed forces or labouring
'Lack of ambition'
The best you could get was a Trade after leaving Belsfield
Even then we where the only school in the country that I know of that never done any Woodwork or Metalwork
Unless you came from a family with a skill you would not know how to change a hacksaw blade
Anyone coming from that school into a Trade you were handicapped from the start
At Tech College you were behind the other lads by a couple of years, i.e. maths, geometry, trigonometry, and technical drawing
You entered into the shipyards without even the most basic metalwork or woodwork skills

I got an education at Tech College
I got metalwork skills in the shipyard

'Success stories'
Local Secondary Schools like Croft Terrace or Clegwell were success stories why not the Secondary School Belsfield?

A 'Belsfield' would not be allowed to exist today

Lets hear what others who went to the school, have to say ...............

It's open to debate as always

'Truth be out'
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#36
You don't half rant on JP. What do you mean by success stories? How do you measure success? It is the grounding we get which shapes our lives, whether it's from our parents or the schools we attended and I bet there is something you learnt at Belsfield which stood you in good stead for the future. Yes it would be interesting to hear from ex-pupils, I would be surprised to hear if it was all as black as you paint it.
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#37
Chic Wrote:You don't half rant on JP. What do you mean by success stories? How do you measure success? It is the grounding we get which shapes our lives, whether it's from our parents or the schools we attended and I bet there is something you learnt at Belsfield which stood you in good stead for the future. Yes it would be interesting to hear from ex-pupils, I would be surprised to hear if it was all as black as you paint it.

Your ranting about nothing if you never went there

You never answered my questions but you expect me to answer yours
Are you male or Female? (just checked back on threads and yes you are female)
Did you go to Belsfield? (you could not after 1960)
If so when? (was it before 1960?)
You brought up success stories not me
I'm waiting for you to tell me of any success stories

I've got out my old reports
And here is the Curriculum from September 1962 to April 1966

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County Council of Durham
Education Department
Report Form. Senior Classes
School St. Bede’s Boys. Modern School. Jarrow. Co. Durham
Department
Name of Pupil

Class 1A
Period from September 1962 to July 1963
No. of times absent
No. of times late
Form Teacher Bede Joseph Hyde
Subjects
English
Language (Oral) Bede Joseph Hyde
Language (Written) Bede Joseph Hyde
Literature
History Bede Joseph Hyde
Geography Bede Joseph Hyde
Mathematics
Arithmetic Bede Joseph Hyde
Algebra
Geometry
Science Bede Joseph Hyde
Arts and Crafts
Other Activities
Position in Class
18th July 1963 General Report by Headmaster Patrick James Corr

Class 2A
Period from September 1963 to July 1964
No. of times absent
No. of times late
Form Teacher Henry Joseph Brennan
Subjects
English
Language (Oral) Henry Joseph Brennan
Language (Written) Henry Joseph Brennan
Literature Henry Joseph Brennan
History Henry Joseph Brennan
Geography Hugh Cunningham
Mathematics
Arithmetic Henry Joseph Brennan
Algebra Henry Joseph Brennan
Geometry Henry Joseph Brennan
Science Thomas Bushel
Arts and Crafts
Technical Drawing Michael McKenna
Other Activities
Physical Education Raymond Bede McNally
Music Francis Sutherland
Position in Class
20th July 1964 General Report by Headmaster Patrick James Corr

Class 3A
Period from 9th September 1964 to 23rd July 1965
No. of times absent
No. of times late
Form Teacher John O’Brien
Subjects
English
Language (Oral) John O’Brien
Language (Written) John O’Brien
Literature Edward Fallon
History Henry Joseph Brennan
Geography Hugh Cunningham
Mathematics
Arithmetic John O’Brien
Algebra John O’Brien
Geometry John O’Brien
Science Thomas Bushel
Arts and Crafts John O’Brien
Music Francis Sutherland
Physical Education Raymond Bede McNally
Other Activities
Position in Class of 31
19th July 1965 General Report by Headmaster Patrick James Corr

Class 4A
Period from September 1965 to December 1965
No. of times absent
No. of times late
First Term
Form Teacher Hugh Cunningham
Subjects
English
Language (Oral) Hugh Cunningham
Language (Written)
Comprehension Hugh Cunningham
Written Comprehension Hugh Cunningham
Literature Hugh Cunningham
History Henry Joseph Brennan
Geography Hugh Cunningham
Mathematics
Arithmetic Hugh Cunningham
Algebra Hugh Cunningham
Geometry
Science Thomas Bushel
Arts and Crafts John O’Brien
Other Activities
Physical Education Raymond Bede McNally
Music Francis Sutherland
Technical Drawing
17th December 1965 General Report by Headmaster Patrick James Corr

Class 4A
Period from January 1966 to April 1966
No. of times absent
No. of times late
Second Term
Form Teacher Hugh Cunningham
Subjects
English
Language (Oral) Hugh Cunningham
Language (Written) Hugh Cunningham
Literature Edward Fallon
History Marks Henry Joseph Brennan
Geography Hugh Cunningham
Mathematics
Arithmetic Hugh Cunningham
Algebra Hugh Cunningham
Geometry
Science Thomas Bushel
Arts and Crafts John O’Brien
Other Activities
Music Francis Sutherland
Physical Education Raymond Bede McNally
28th March 1966 General Report by Headmaster Patrick James Corr

Notice how many subjects are missing from the Curriculum that was par for the course for other Secondary Schools
i.e. Trigonometery, Physics, Woodwork, Metalwork, Technical Drawing etc ...........
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#38
My hubby went to St. Aidan's and he was never taught woodwork, metalwork or technical drawing and physics was classed as a science subject. (That's probably why he's useless at D.I.Y.)
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#39
Was not St. Aidan's a Catholic Grammar School before St. Joseph's?

My younger brother (2 years younger than me) went to St. Joseph's
And they had good Woodwork and Metalwork classes
He used to be able to use a drill, grinder, welding set, joiners tools before leaving school
When St. Joseph's was geared up for Professional jobs?
He is an Accountant

Secondary schools were supposed to be geared up to the shipyards, pits, armed forces or just labouring

St. Joseph's Grammar school had the woodwork and metalwork
St. Bede's just had a Science Lab?

How many scientists have we got who went to Belsfied?
None
But there a quite a few scientists who went to St. Joseph's .......

But there are quite a few Welders, Plumbers, Pipefitters, Platers, Mechanical Engineers, Electricians, Joiners, Carpenters, Joiners, Bricklayers, Roofers, Tilers, Scaffolders, Shotblasters, Painters, Car Mechanics etc .. etc ..
Who went to Belsfield who where never parley to metalwork or woodwork tuition in any shape or form, and went on to learn a trade handicapped, whilst those from other Secondary Schools had the basic skills
God man I did not even know which way to put a blade in a hacksaw when I left school

Totally wasted years were Belsfield
Thank god for people like Youth Employment Officer Sammy Rowan (who by the way was the reporter on the Jarrow March)
And above all Technical Colleges to educate us and learn us the basic skills

Belsfield was a crime actually against us that went there, and was allowed to go on for years

Anyhow that's all I have to say on the matter of wasted years at Belsfield
I have had more than my 5% so I shall digress and await others opinions
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#40
Just Passing 100% right
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